CrossFit vs. Orange Theory

What’s up guys, it’s Jake. I just did Orange Theory and I wanted to give
you my thoughts on it. So, facility’s super
clean, it’s really nice it’s like a corporate fitness facility, so of course you would expect that. Coaches, super friendly,
everyone was super friendly. Like four showers, four bathrooms. Weird orange lights in there. I was not a huge fan of those, but all the equipment was really nice. Eight treadmills, I believe. Eight water rowers. They had two bikes, I guess for people who can’t use the treadmill, can’t run, and then some dumbbells and you know I think the heaviest set of dumbbells they had
was maybe like 50 pounds and they had some TRX bands. They give you a little heart rate monitor, and they display your heart rate, the heart rate of everybody in the class as they’re working out. And they want you to be at
a certain heart rate zone, although the trainer did
not mention anything about not being in the red zone. He didn’t tell me
anything about that until the end of the class. I mean, to be fair it was only one class that I took, so maybe
that is something that they talk about, but that’s something that I’m really big on is making sure that peep the hormonal response
when people do that when they redline too much it’s actually you know you think you’re working harder and it’s better, but it
actually causes you to retain fat and can cause inflammation and things like that
when you have too much Cortisol is the stress
hormone that’s released when you’re in the red zone too long. So, didn’t mention any of that, but again it was only one class that I had taken there. So class was really fast
you alternate between alternating between the
treadmill, and the rower and then kind of like circuits. With dumbbells and body weight movements and the TRX bands. My, really my, my only complaint is that there’s not time for coaching. The coach there was really good but he just didn’t have enough time to tell anybody why they were
doing specific movements. You know, what muscles they
should have been feeling. The reason why the movement was important. You know he spent about five to 10 seconds showing a movement quickly and go off to the races. It is light weight and they are mostly body weight movement so you know there’s not a really a
huge chance that somebody’s going to get hurt. But as a coach, I think
it’s important to know why you’re doing movements. It really helps people
connect with fitness in a different way than just you know showing them quickly what to do and having them do it. I, we were doing a single
leg dumbbell dead lift which is cool, props to
them for including that in their program, I really dug that but the coach, I was holding one dumbbell and he you know said it
doesn’t matter if your holding one dumbbell or two dumbbells or which hand you’re
holding the dumbbell in, Which is not true, it does matter. It changes the movement a lot. Depending on you know are
you using the same side leg as the hand with the
dumbbell you’re holding that completely changes
the way that your body has to organize itself to stabilize why you’re doing that movement so no real explanation of like the core stability there and while at one point the coach was right in
front of me talking to me while I was doing that and I purposefully rounded my back to see
if he would correct me and he didn’t say anything. And I really didn’t see him make too many corrections of the other people in there. Although again, they were
using super light weight and for the most part people were actually moving pretty well so
that’s kind of my main take-a-ways from coaching. They don’t offer any nutritional advice unless, as a company, they don’t offer any nutritional advice, so if you’re looking for somebody to help you with that then that might not be a good option. There’s no type of assessment that they do looking at flexibility or mobility or anything like that
before you start classes. That is the same, that’s the same at a lot of places though including
a lot of CrossFit gyms there’s no assessment and I think that’s a travesty, and everyone should be
assessing their clients. So I wasn’t thrilled with that. I think that OTF is, that’s Orange Theory Fitness is a great place to start
if you don’t want to do barbell movements. If you don’t want to
learn how to climb a rope, for example you know or
you don’t really care about the why behind your movements and you just kind of want to get sweaty and zone out for an hour. I think it’s great, but if you’re somebody who’s tried other types of fitness programs before and you haven’t had success and you need a little
bit more accountability, you need help with nutrition and you’re kind of looking for a why behind the movements that
you’re doing to help you connect to fitness a little bit more then I think that it’s probably not a good option for you so I’m trying to be as
unbiased as possible. I do run a CrossFit gym and I do think that there
was a lot of good stuff that I did today so I don’t want to completely knock it. But there were definitely
some shortcomings there. So try a class you can do
a free class there at OTF and try a CrossFit class or you know something else and compare the two and see what works for you. Alright I’ll see you in health.

22 Replies to “CrossFit vs. Orange Theory”

  1. Sorry about the coach issues you experienced. Been going to the same Orangetheory for over a year, excellent staff, but like any business I've heard there's some disparities between different studios. Where I go all the coaches actually work out with members at times when they're not actually working, and they are sticklers for proper form, and they get to know you and push you to excel if they see you slacking a bit with the weights, for example.

  2. Wow! You didn’t compare CrossFit and orange theory at all. Blatantly biased CrossFit elitist… Thanks for nothing

  3. Thanks for the video. Been out there shopping around and I have reservations about OTF and you addressed almost exactly what I was concerned about. There is a type of crowd for every type of fitness program out there.

  4. I haven’t tried OTF yet but I’m planning on it. Thank you for you video. As a Pilates Instructor, I agree with your concerns about body alignment and understanding the why behind the movements. I know Crossfit isn’t for me at all lol but OTF may be more my speed for cardio/strength and endurance. I’m glad that I already know how to work out safely so I won’t be as reliant on the coach as others may be.

  5. Actually loved this video! I’ve done Crossfit for 3 years in HS, OTF for summers during college and 9 Rounds during the school year during college and they definitely have VERY different “areas of health” they’re offering! I loved the video and thought you did a great job of explaining how a crossfitter is gonna address the OTF workouts and what they might or might not like about it! It’s definitely a different mentality than a box, & I really enjoyed hearing what you thought!

  6. I am a active CrossFit coach and have been taking OTF classes the last few weeks. I absolutely love it. I agree with the coaching comments you made. There just isn't enough time for guidance and correction however having the movements displayed on screen is great. I don't think there is as much coaching going on as there is motivation. I do love the constant movement for the entire 1 hour. I leave every class dripping in sweat.

  7. Better coaches will explain more. I've rarely come across really good OTF coaches. Most are just person trainers that take this as a side gig. I completely agree with the kind of people that would like OTF. I'm a broken down old dude so Cross Fit isn't for me. OTF is a good workout for me and works for my limitation but if I was 10 years younger, I'd probably be doing Cross Fit.

  8. Maybe it’s the location you tried but I absolutely have to disagree with you on the coaching. I take classes four times a week and every single trainer has always walked around and corrected people’s forms on the floor. They also tell you what muscle you should be feeling and if you’re not then you’re asked to raise your hand so they can teach you the correct the form. They also offer rowing coaching and constantly stress the proper form you should be doing.

  9. Thanks I’m currently jogging, rollerblading An scooter I guess I’m a cardio person. I wanted to try the intense classes but everyone wants to do weights lol no thank u but I enjoy watching ppl do it lol

  10. I feel like the assessment of the coaching can go both ways. I loved Crossfit and did it for a few years until I (unrelatedly) developed Frozen Shoulder. After over 1.5 years, I still struggle to go overhead so oly lifting is still out. I went to 2 not great boxes which essentially had minimal coaching before finding a place that had excellent coaching and would call in an extra coach once a class reached a certain size (I think 6?). It was great.

    The thing I’m finding is that OTF has really improved my cardio fitness. “Lifting weights faster” didn’t do much for that. With Crossfit, I was always in the red zone and found my heart rate took a long time to recover. After less than a year at OTF, I find it hard to get into the orange zone and stay there.

    So, my take is that Crossfit is better for some things, and OTF is better for others. Ideally, I think mixing both would be best.

  11. Seems like you went in as a skeptic to case the coach instead of a completely open mind. For example purposely rounding your back, unnecessary when you have a range of people in that class, one who might do it unintentionally anyway and another who might even do it because they see you doing it. Leading on as a otf coach we have our fair deal with people who come in with fitness history with a demeanor as if they don't want too much form coaching just direction of the operations of the class. I was skeptical before I did CrossFit because history of injuries giving it a bad rep but ended up staying for a good while because it was something different although I found difficulty in certain barbell movements. I've also had a band of crossfitters who work out at my studio who say they get the intensity with less injury prone movements. I think what otf lacks definitely from CrossFit is that Opportunity for heavy lift training.

  12. I love OTF. The coaches at my location correct people and explain what muscle you should feel during the exercise. As for Crossfit, I was going to try a class, got there and it was extremely intimidating. No beginners level, people everywhere doing all kind of stuff and the coach was focus on chit chatting with veteran members. I walked out as I didn't feel welcome at all.

  13. 4:58 “If you just want to kinda get sweaty and zone out for an hour”. You clearly weren’t engaged in your own workout. You have to contribute something.

  14. i agree with all this! i just started my own channel and shared a little bit of my story whilst giving a honest review//what to expect at orange theory! go check it out 🙂

  15. Thanks for this video! I’ve been doing CrossFit for years and have been thinking about doing OTF twice a week for longer cardio workouts. I don’t think I could ever quit CrossFit lol.

  16. Coaches should be spending 80% of our time on the floor coaching members and correcting and challenging members. Just like all fitness places there are good coaches, coaches who need work or great coaches. And we do care about the “why” I coach the WHY all class long. Like anything you can’t do a cirque after just 1 class. I would recommend taking another class, ask to take the head coach’s class. And share your feedback with him or her. I know as a Regional coach I would want to know.

  17. I’m new to CrossFit and I love it. I love the small personal environment. It does seem intimidating but I like the fact that, at least at my gym, there is an expectation that everyone can do CrossFit. Even as a woman they don’t assume that I can’t do something. The coches know me and my journey and my ability and other people in the class don’t assume I can’t climb a rope because I’m a woman. It feels very inclusive. They can modify everything. There are all sorts of people with different body types and varying levels of physical ability at my gym. At first I was worried about the cardio not being at least 30 mn. But honestly in the last 3 months since I’ve started I’m so much stronger. I’m beating my 1 rep max all the time and I only go 3 days a week. My posture has improved so much because my back is stronger. Now hunching over is starting to feel less comfortable than sitting and standing up straight. Also as someone with asthma the short bursts of effort are much easier for me to get through verses an hour in a hot room with 20 other people. I have lost fat but it’s been slower than with other things like just running. I think if I want to lose more fat, it has more to do wit what I eat than how much cardio I do. So I’ve started to be more diligent about how I fuel my body.

  18. I'd rather have them tell me what to do and move on quick. My crossfit experience, too much socializing. I just wanna finish my workout and leave.

  19. Stop the madness. Can’t build metabolism and stronger bones if you’re not hitting 6-8 reps
    Although some cardio is good, let’s make it clear it is not the way to best health. Focus on lifting, sensible diet and some cardio to supplement your fitness. Not the other way around

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